the marrying of married women, plurally, and also dealing with marriage age, common marriage age could have, he could have helped, it could have helped him if he had read "persistence of polygamy" with the essays that discuss those topics. but, obviously, i noticed that because of the fact that i was one of the co-editors and an author in that that. culture of violence, he did a good job, but i think he could have gone further in placing, um, the culture of violence that obviously existed here in utah within a greater context, particularly the culture of honor. and, um, i have the page numbers marked, but i'm not going to bore you all with that right now. but overall, i think that it's a very good book and earnly has a -- certainly has a lot to offer. >> i'd like to say that too.